Did you know you should NOT use Thiamine or B complex while treating coccidia with Corid? While Corid would be my last go to treatment, its important that we know how to use it correctly and safely if we do use it. Coccidia needs thiamine to thrive, "Structurally, CORID mimics thiamin (Vitamin B1) which is required by coccidia for normal growth and reproduction. When coccidia ingest CORID, they experience thiamin deficiency and starve from malnutrition" Giving thiamine or B complex while doing corid treatment will actually work against Corids' effectiveness. Instead, have it ready and keep a close eye on the goat for signs of polio. If seen, stop Corid and start the thiamine. Signs of Polio are: stargazing, walking excitability, circling, diarrhea, muscle tremors, and blindness... We find Corid most effectiveness when diluted and dosed as followed: Mix 6 tablespoons of prepared corid to 16 oz water.... you can make a smaller batch by cutting it in half....then dose it at ... 30cc per 100lbs 15cc per 50lbs 7.5 per 25 lbs DO NOT ADD TO DRINKING WATER...its better to dose to each animals to be sure they get what they need. While we so have IMO better choices, Toltrazuril, DiMethox, Albon, SulfaDrug or Sulmet...Corid maybe the only treatment some can get their hands on. Using it correctly is important..
Enterotoxemia, also known as overeating or pulpy kidney disease, is a condition caused by Clostridium perfringens type D. Under specific conditions, these bacteria can rapidly reproduce in the animal’s intestine, producing large quantities of toxins. The epsilon toxin produced by C. perfringens Type D is the most significant toxin in producing the disease. Young animals are most susceptible. Sudden and high mortality rates may occasionally occur in lambs and kids. Although adult animals are also susceptible to enterotoxemia, they develop immunity due to frequent exposure to low doses of these toxins.-per college of veterinary medicine, Georgia
The peracute form is most frequent in young animals. It is characterized by sudden death that occurs approximately 12 hours after the first signs of the disease appear. Some kids or lambs may show signs of central nervous disease, such as excitement or convulsions. Sudden death may occur in only minutes in kids or lambs showing neurological disease. Typical clinical signs include:
Sluggish rumen leads to Enterotoxemia. Goat may have slight rumen sound, but has runny stool, off feed, laying off to herself..maybe grinding her teeth. You need to jump into action to restore flora...
Stop grain/milk, keep hay, alfalfa, natural browse food in from of the goat. Babies on bottle or mom should stop milk and replace milk with electrolytes in bottle. Adults need to stay hydrated...offer electrolytes to encourage more fluid in take
cd antitoxin based on dose mentioned above^
Milk of magnesia
To help restore function of the rumen
give probiotics AND
room temp Beer at room temp and/or
Quality Peppermint Ess. oil and or Digestive blend
in severe cases you can give a rumen bolus, *steal a cud from a healthy goat
* to steal a cud. Easier said then done, but it has been done!! Please be aware, the goats back teeth are razor sharp. You will need a wooden spoon or something to place between the jaw to prevent the goat from chomping down.
Find a goat who just settled down. stay close and be ready. Have a helper have a jar ready..have a wooden spoon or other safe item to block jaw from closing all the way. Wait until you see that cud come up the throat and into the goats mouth, now fast like lightening and swift as a Ninja, jump into action...grab the goats head, open her mouth, place your safety item between jaw and grab that cud....it will smell to high heaven..it will feel warm and gross...but don’t let go...get what you can and get out...that goat will now give you the stink eye. Put the cud in the jar. NOW, go wash your hands :) and count all your fingers!
Mix some water in with the cud and stir..draw 30 cc or so up in a drenching syringe and drench the sick goat...
here is a good video that will show a safe for your fingers method..
DID YOU KNOW Cydectin cattle pour on can harm your goat? While it has been proven an effective wormer given orally to goats, the risk it carries makes me stay far away from it. But those who choose to use it should at least understand what they are drenching their goats with so lets examine what this product is..
Cydectin cattle pour on is designed as a pour for the thick Hyde of a cow..not the thin skinned goat, not as an oral medication..Just look at what it contains...
Contains 5 mg moxidectin per ml. it also has naphtha petroleum, light aromatic solvent; (Petroleum naphtha is an intermediate hydrocarbon liquid stream derived from the refining of crude oil. It is most usually desulfurized and then catalytically reformed, which re-arranges or re-structures the hydrocarbon molecules in the naphtha as well as breaking some of the molecules into smaller molecules to produce a high-octane component of gasoline (or petrol).) polypropylene glycol monomyristyl ether propionate: ( Propylene glycol is the third “product” in a chemical process beginning with propene, a byproduct of fossil fuel (oil refining and natural gas processing) and also found in nature as a byproduct of fermentation.) and isobutylene homopolymer Used as a sealant, an adhesive, a coating, and an additive to polymers and lubricating oils; Used to make butyl rubber with the addition of 2% isoprene; [Hawley] Used as a sticky substance to repel pigeons and other birds (Roost-No-More);
These things are to help the Moxidectin STICK to the cows thick hyde and be water proof ... Warnings are to wear goggles, gloves and dose in ventilated area.. So how does this harm our goats?? First off, as a pour on it wont help with internal parasites of goats, it does however have the potential to burn their skin. Next..as a oral medication, yes, it kill worms..FAST, so if your goat is heavy burdened with worms, the potential for mass kill off can cause toxicity from the dead worm load the body can not break down and flush fast enough..NEXT the mass kill can cause bleed out as the worms detach from its feeding spot..and finally if all that, and its smell, does not scare you just a little, Cydecten cattle pour on will coat the intestines of your goat as it would a cows hyde..which can interfere with nutritional absorption.
I know many use this. Many vets recommend it. And Yes, It works in most areas...that is not my purpose here. My purpose is to inform..know what you are putting in your goats...
I want you to know, We have other choices, cydectin sheep drench, cydectin injectable, Horse pastes. We have ivomecs and white wormers and we have herbs and ess. oils. We do not need to use this product internally in our goats. But if you choose to, know what you are giving....